saber and gilgamesh relationship

Like wtf -_- he's lame and weak but arrogant af. I totally agree with what you said about Gilgamesh compared to Shirou. but its a lovely idea. And Gilgamesh says he going to rape Saber , and he would have done it if Shirou hadn’t gotten up and defended her. -This coupling will never be consensual. this makes me so confused. That is, in essence, what it means to be great enough to become a Heroic Spirit in Gil's eyes, since he is the first human to have done so. He loves her brilliance, her unyielding strength in her beliefs and he loves her since he knows that despite it being a cursed and tragic path for her, she still strives for it. (if i am correct because i dont remember clearly) so he began to love her(perhaps he was like her at first) i personally dont hate shiro i kinda like them bc he is a normal guy but he isnt good enough for saber .iskandar after gilgamish is better than shiro for her!!!!. You would have to rewrite Gilgamesh’s entire character. I didn’t think Gilgamesh was handsome on his first appearances, I mean compared to my dear Archer. What absolute garbage. The two of them developed a friendship over the course of the event, evidently finding a kindred spirit in each other, and sharing an attraction towards Saber, though Lon'qu was the one who had won Saber's affections in the end. It's just that, somehow, I found their interactions very enigmatic - and very fascinating. Join Yahoo Answers and get 100 points today. ", so in other word, He is only Interested in her, not like love or something like that... CMIIW. Like a king would. Girls and Boys are supposed to be treated equally, and what he’s doing is absolutely gender discrimination, and to think that he’s a very very very very very very very weak. During her life as king, Saber thought only to protect her people and nothing else. Gilgamesh and BB's relationship due to Hakuno (Translated) [シカ] Comic. He's ways better than Shirou !!! Explicit (32) Mature (27) Teen And Up Audiences (18) Not Rated (10) General Audiences (8) Include Warnings . Otherwise, everything goes! Don’t get me wrong, the ending of Fate is nice, but it could have turned out much better. He is the King of Heroes, the hero of the oldest epic poem in human history, who possessed all things in the world. but i do agree that shirou is complete retard, however in the end he didnt get the girl, so i say we should just give him a break. :) Love the comments :D Thanks guys, lol i did hate shirou`s over the top attitude xD geez learn to fight first xD but he does have potential xD he does become the o so fantastic archer :P. Look people, Saber REJECTED Gilgamesh which means she DOESN'T like him, and she confessed her love to him already so get over it. I mean you can't just say someone is stupid for what they belive in. As they exchange their philosophies on ruling as monarchs, he develops a fascination for Saber due to her flawed ideals and the chance to see them crush her in despair. Because in the end he's a Gilgamesh copycat. Then the part about looks/character Thats just an opinion of what you think but look at it in another point of view like Saber's. Gilgamesh is an enigmatic Archer-class Servant. Posted by 6 days ago. Gil want Arthuria because her idels, I think is not a trash motion. He immediately takes notice of both Saber and Rider due to their status as kings. I think Saber cant see this Gilgamesh pure feelings to her because she blinded by Shirou and more focused on the bad side of Gilgamesh. Personally i dont relly care for shirou, i just relly like saber. There's tons of material you'd have to read first in order to truly understand their characters. Also if someone stabbed you a couple times would you say that it was an accident and that they didn't know how they should express themselves. And he only loves Sakura in the HF route. But since Saber x Shirou goes canon already, there are a thousand ways to reach fanon :D. I can't say I hate Saber x Shirou, because I think they don't match in one or another way, but still people have their own opinions, and favorite pairings so I will shut up my mouth. Even Sakura was less boring than him. Atleast there both heroes. Just accept this simple fact. They battle, and then become close friends. He sees her as an object to be taken and raped.It's ironic and pure hipocrisy to complain about Shirou "being sexist" because he wanted to protect Saber when Gilgamesh was actively objectifying her and refusing to see the fact that she never cared for him.Hypocrites. I love the story and I'm also very interested in this argument. He wants to claim sabers brilliance and wants to darken it himself. UBW is his ability he gained through life. !GOD I loved you post, you are sweet Awesome! yupp, definitely agree with you. At CCC it was revealed that Gil loves humanity.And lastly, if you are smarter, Arthuria is the "first woman" who refuse Gil (Fate/UC). i mean, at first i liked Saber with Assassin, but then when i saw Gilgamesh with his hair down, smiling, whispering to Saber before he dies, omg! You understand what I mean, right?I know that GilxArhuria will not getting together. He has no interest in Saber Alter because she has lost sight of her ideals. Honestly I can’t tell if you’re rolling or not but this is ridiculous, you are either brain damaged or just an idiot who hates Shirou. Third, he’s not even handsome. Oh it’s just in the past, alls forgiven. When we get older, most people understand that we can't save everyone. It is like an ultimate form of enjoyment for him, seeing her strive, struggle then get crushed, like a cycle repeating itself. BUT, I HATE SHIROU on the 1st few episodes of the anime. As I have mentioned, he just doesn’t know how to express himself well. I would shiver in joy whenever he got his ass kicked... which thankfully happened in every single route in the game. He didn’t change her at all, she just became more human . And if only, IF ONLY Shirou wasn’t in the picture and Saber had said yes to the proposal he made (and I mean the wedding proposal where in he mentioned something like “Let’s get engaged while you’re still sane”) Things could have turned out beautifully. hmm.. sorry, i'm an anti-gilgamesh... Gilgamesh haters...ok, here it goes: Gil might be a villain and be stupid most of times, but honestly shirou is worse. He is also well aware that Saber is a powerful servant and a King. The difference is that, unlike in his interaction with Kirei, he doesn't let Saber make her own decision. Find out more with MyAnimeList, the world's most active online anime and manga community and database. it hurts on Gilgamesh's side. It so sad for me because in Fate/ Strange Fake Arthuria isn't there.. Why everyone say that Gil is a rapist? Why is it that when Aliens comes to Earth, they have super powers but when Humans goes to another planet, they have no super powers? anyhow if I had to chose i think i would have to chose saber and shirou, over gilgamesh. What are some of your favorite anime series. i think that saber and gilgamesh macke a verry good couple, and i kould kick shiros as, and he isno goodfore saber, but gilgamesh is a king like her. Phew there I'm done sorry about the rant but it gets annoying on how people make judgement calls on some things (myself included). Both Saber and Shirou used Avalon simultaneously to block their opponent's deadly attack and promote their own. You really shouldn’t play yourself like this by using Zero, which hints at the horrors he has planned for her in the fate route. The fullest extant text of the Gilgamesh epic is on 12 incomplete Akkadian-language tablets found in the mid-19th century at Nineveh. One more thing, on the last episode, when Saber won, he touched her face before he disappeared and said that he forgave her. even Shirou did not force her to stay even if he wants her to! Also, Kinoko Nasu (the writter of the novel) said himself that Shirou's true love is Sakura not Saber.Also, Saber and Gilgamesh make an AWESOME pairing and I loved your explanation of it <3, Dear God.I ship them too and think they would make an awesome dysfunctional coupe in an alternate universe but sheesh this thing lists it for ALL THE WRONG REASONS. Especially women, if you want to be raped and then dumped by Gil it's your own business but leave Saber alone she loves Shirou, she is loyal to him to the end and she is happy with him. Remember when he said he wouldn’t kill Shirou because if he dies, Saber will also disappear. Let's just say he really didn't :), I think GilgameshxSaber is waaayy better than SaberxShirou~~ especially when gil whispered to saber that he don't angry that he lose on her. He ruined sabers character. Enkidu learns of Gilgamesh's abuses and challenges him to a fight. Saber loathes him because he is so egocentric, sexist, and awful. And you’re going to ignore Gilgamesh’s desire to rape and conquer saber( he says this himself ) ? As long as Saber is happy then it's fine with me. It's not like I really support Saber and Gilgamesh or Shirour and saber, but looks aren't everything you know. errrr... what to say... if that gilgamesh DO really love Saber then why would he force her to love him?! The latter get spoilt enough and grows up to be into something called arrogance. Humanity, to Gil, is at its best and most beautiful when it's struggling against impossible odds. and besides all that i just have one thing to say: Shirou fails as main guy. Does any one else think dragon ball declined in quality after the frieza arc? The anime version sucks compared to the visual novel anyways, and they made Shirou's head too big in the anime version lol. Anyway, it will never happen, deal with it, Saber will be with Shirou on Avalon, she is with him in Sunny day alternative UBW ending, she is with him in Carnival Phantasm and Emiya-san cooking anime and you can only dream about your own Gil but the thing is your own imagined Gil is not canon Gil. "He takes a great interest in Saber and her ideals, and proposes that she becomes his wife. They're not real. 9 Saber And Rin Saber - Altera forces a contract with … Its too different with our live now, maybe in our era this is sexist, dump etc but in him era, its true to make a king as rule. What do you mean by Gilgamesh's words while in Fate/Unlimited Code (So.. the end of Gil's route, is there a scene he rape Saber? He just likes to mock others, just that.If you follow Fate/ Ekstra CCC then you will know that Gil is not a rapist or sexist. Nasu himself said Gilgamesh would just throw her away once he was bored of her and that should she show any interest , or change in anyway, he would drop her. -Shirou doesn't tell Saber not to fight because he's sexist and weak. Love of all kinds—between friends, or between lovers—plays a central role in the Epic.For Enkidu, being intimate with a woman signals his joining human civilization.When Gilgamesh rejects Ishtar ’s advances, she grows angry, and this leads eventually to Enkidu’s death. I can understand the part about gender discrimination but everything else no just no. *round of applause*well... that's my opinions & thoughts.NOTE: NO OFFENSE MEANT, it was just my opinions :). At the time on the fifth holy grail war both of them meet each other again for the so called "re-uniting" union to be made, and of course if you remember of what gilgamesh said on saber when they defeat caster and her master and see each other again gilgamesh said "Oh, how silly of you for making a man like me wait, and have that answer from ten years ago, we shall meet again". Many might hate him for ruining or attempting to ruin the life of the protagonists. He wants to control, belittle, and demean her for his own disgusting ego. As a beginner, she could shoot two bull's eye out of three shots (yes, she's an archer).And as for her, I also felt the same thing like Gilgamesh had felt, 'some things are very beautiful for the very reason that they're unobtainable', although I won't fight her.I hope his boyfriend (recently she went out with someone other) won't treat her like Shirou treated Saber. how does that work? I mean what the heck! Gilgamesh - A character from Fate/stay night who first appeared briefly in Monokuma Rising. She never liked Gil, they have nothing in common, except both are kings so what, he wants to dominate and to conquer, he hates people, she wants to sacrifice herself for her people and her country, there is NOTHING even slightly romantic between them. Yes he is weak but at least he is trying his best to do what he thinks is right. He loves her as an object to possess. GOD DAMMM!! Really? Can someone tell me when Gil raped a girl in the Fate route (because I never find it)? I swear the anime Fate/stay night would of been wayyyyyy better wifout him, my god... his idealistic logic of "saving everyone without sacrificing anyone" even archer got pissed off at himself lol ._. Enkidu is brought more fully into civilization by his time with the shepherds. Shirou is indeed a terrible pair with Saber, though his ideals were reasonable. That is the best way to fight. I loved it because he didn't hold back. Well in my point of view, I kind of love their team up simply because its ironically dark and dramatic compared to ShirouXSaber, which I find a bit cliche. Saber female 8.40 (2613) is killed by: Saber in the 2006 TV series: female 8.40 (2613) is the enemy of: Archer male 7.95 (667) Emiya Shirou male 3.27 (1461) Saber female 8.40 (2613) is the slave/servant of: Kotomine Kirei male, B 6.70 (854) Matou Shinji in Unlimited Blade Works: male 1.21 (292) kills: Berserker Maybe that's just me and my stupidity. Great post. Making her in the eyes of Gilgamesh as the unattainable and yet sweetest treasure of all. I don't know...really. Saber hates him because he's arrogant jerk and piece of crap, she is not you, she is against you. Tl;dr - Gilgamesh is a deep character that has much more to him than his a***** speech patterns and arrogance, but it isn’t touched on as often because those are the ‘iconic’ things he’s known for. she never gave him a chance either, she could have talked to him instead of fighting. Just think of what a disaster it would be, because if you honestly think that they're going to get along, then the Gilgamesh and Saber in your mind must have a completely different personality. He fought her as if she may beat him. Gilgamesh considers Saber as his, and his alone, so all hell breaks lose when the ever-so-charming Lancer attempted to charm his way through Saber's Heart. Besides, if you're saying that it's stupid that Shirou's always trying to save people, then you're basically saying that Saber's stupid too. Even the creator of Fate says Gilgamesh would toss Saber away once he had finished with her. SHE CLEARLY REJECTED GILGAMESH (ouch! I totally support Saber x Gilgamesh, true dat gilgamesh can b a dick at times but hes like any other pampered prince who thinks hes the greatest but there usually is one person who teaches him about the value of life. But that's a child's view. Normally people consider flowers at their most beautiful as their petals fall, but he only feels disappointment if he ever manages to have her because she only shines brightly to him when she is opposing him. I mean look at how he pursues Saber even though she keeps saying no. What would be worth living for if there weren't challenges ahead of us, whether they kill us or not. It’s for that reason why Shirou saber is so popular. And "anonymous" was right, Shirou isn't that weak. There's really no love involved in it.Zero contradicts this as well. He was actually smiling, perhaps happy that the one who won against him is the woman he loves. While the relic used as the catalyst looked like the broken fragment of a mummy, it was actually claimed to be the fossil of the first skin ever shed by a snake. Gilgamesh convinces Enkidu to travel to the Cedar Forest to kill the demi-god Humbaba. xD They really realistically wouldnt end up together but its a nice thought for Saber-Gilgamesh fans.Overall I just think its okay whoever she chose because.. well. How can he save everyone when he cannot even save his own self!? First of all, the way he stops Saber from fighting and telling her things like she’s a girl and it’s not right for a girl to fight is very insulting in my opinion. Their ideals are similair on how they want to help others so they would get along better. I’d say, her very presence makes him happy. And when he mentioned something like “As expected from the girl I laid my eyes on” or something like that. (Cut his arm off) I'm joking, he seriously did! The thing that annoys me the most is when people don't even know what they're talking about, and they start complaining about things. You're absolutely disgusting, forcing Saber to love someone she dislikes, what if someone orded you to leave your loved ones and to love someone else, what would you think. How would he survive or rather, how would Saber survive if she relies on him?? Gilgamesh wants Saber to marry him because she refuses him, he doesn’t care at all what happens , he doesn’t love her, any idiot could see that. Gilgamesh | Archer/Arthur Pendragon | Saber (4) Gilgamesh | Caster/Artoria Pendragon | Saber (4) Guinevere/Arturia Pendragon | Saber (3) Gilgamesh | Archer/Kotomine Kirei (3) Exclude Additional Tags Alternate Universe (73) Dialogue (71) Romance (52) Alternate Universe - Modern Setting (48) Drama (46) Established Relationship (32) Betaed (30) Thank you and good bye. Ok, before you tell me that he’s not a gentleman, he doesn’t respect women or he’s very selfish, hear my reason XD. *pants* Sorry to SaberxShirou fans, this is just my personal opinion anyway, I’m really sorry for the rants. But Shirou wasn't that handsome & Shirou wasn not my "IDEAL HEROINE". The parts where Gilgamesh loves Saber is wrong in my opinion. After Tokiomi's death, he forged a new contract with Kirei Kotomine that lasted until the Fifth Holy Grail War. There’s no defense against this pairing , plain and simple. This makes Gilgamesh half-blood of divine birth. I think many people say Gilgamesh is dump, sexish, rapist etc, but hell! In fact the pairing has actually picked up some more fans because of it. The reason of the way he forces Saber to be his could be because of this detail. He decides to "show her his love" until he grows tired of her. How is Shirou worse? Kotomine was watching over the opening of a gate that will unleash the great evil that was in the Holy Grail. Gilgamesh is the Archer-class Servant of Tokiomi Tohsaka during the Fourth Holy Grail War. But 'ANONYMOUS' was right. so, does he want his personal harem? From the epic, we find out that Gilgamesh is a son of a higher priest-king and a goddess. But Gil alway love Saber in all 3 routes. !I hope gilgamesh will be with Saber.sob... negga's you all crazy, gilgamesh can suck my dick. He did see her as an item, but also as a conquest. I hate Shiro.If he don't appear in Fate/Stay Night I'll be very happy .He is too weak and can't protect Saber.When Saber like Shiro I have a big ? But if you'll turn on the other way around, SHIROU IS JUST SHOWING his "GENTLEMAN" side. 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